r/TikTokCringe • u/MikeeorUSA • 13h ago
Cursed She was savant
(Hillary Clinton speech June, 3rd 2016)
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u/HTPC4Life 11h ago
Dude flat out said "I have concepts of a plan" regarding healthcare and still got elected. We're a country full of morons.
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u/Mc7wis7er 10h ago
He said that his tariff policy was going to pay for everyone's Day Care costs.
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u/Best-Action8769 6h ago
And IVF would be free.
And gas and groceries were going to be cut in half.
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u/RandomRonin 4h ago
Well I am getting half the gas and groceries so I guess he was kind of right! Maybe if we elect him for an illegal third term we can get 600% less groceries!
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u/Unhappy-Lawyer3017 3h ago
please don't say stuff like that, there are always 100000 #rapepubliKKKLans at minimum who will believe you
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u/Atlas-Scrubbed 4h ago
We're a country full of morons.
That’s not fair - to morons.
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u/Opposite-Tiger-1121 3h ago
Yeah, a lot of them are actually malicious and outright evil. Morons can be forgiven if they try to better themselves. Evil people won't try to better themselves.
They've said it out loud. Remember the first term when one women was complaining because he wasn't hurting the "right people?" They also brag about voting for him because of the "liberal tears." Not because he's doing good things, but because it upsets other people.
Anyone who is still a supporter at this point is evil, not just morons.
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u/No_Clerk1194 3h ago
He went on and on about emails. Then just recently made a rule where his whole family cannot be investigated for anything basically. And his fans are still cool with all of that
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u/Several_Leather_9500 12h ago
Republicans - especially those who were running against him for POTUS - all said these things about Trump as well. It's like everyone knows exactly what a POS he is, but the money and massive spread of hate/ attacks on rights are too good to pass up.
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u/daurgo2001 12h ago
That and he made ‘hating cool again’, which riled up the uneducated and those who felt disenfranchised (but weren’t).
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u/Timely-Angle665 11h ago
Make racists giant pussies again.
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u/Boxing_joshing111 11h ago
Already are, clearly.
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u/lollygagging_reddit 9h ago
"I'm not racist but..." Hear it all the time in my line of work.
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u/PsykoFlounder 6h ago
Let me guess, you're employed in the job field? Yup. Happens literally everywhere. So many racists out there.
Sadly, I get how it happens. I grew up around a ton of racist people. Was pretty racist myself until I was about 12 years old. We moved from rural Montana to urban AF California when I was ten, and it took me a couple of years to realize that what I grew up hearing was all bullshit. Just wish more people would be willing to see that it's bullshit, because just like anything else, if you're not willing to admit that your beliefs might be wrong, nothing will ever change.
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u/stentordoctor 8h ago
They are, but they were at least in hiding. Make them hide again.
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u/SirLanceQuiteABit 10h ago
We could just beat the fuck out of them in public 🤷🏽♂️
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u/GeneralHerp 10h ago
Ooh imma give this comment 20% chance of survival
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u/SirLanceQuiteABit 10h ago
🤣 yep, I'm sure that's accurate. Frankly no one will say it and I'm sick of the pretense we're not nearing that point if things keep escalating.
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u/Quirky-Stay4158 11h ago
I remember a very viceral feeling after he was elected the first time, and immediately it's like millions of racists and bigots were given the green light to be shitty again.
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u/mortgagepants 7h ago
as awful as it is, glad we got the mask off version of america. i didn't realize how many of my compatriots are pieces of shit.
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u/NeverRolledA20IRL 7h ago
They got the green light to be shitty during his 2016 campaign. KKK came out of the closet then.
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u/Strontoria 11h ago
I was about to say 'you mean those who actually are disenfranchised, just by late stage capitalism rather than the blame they put on minorities' but then realized you covered those people by kindly saying uneducated rather than stupid.
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u/Crayshack 10h ago
10 years ago, I remember a disturbing number of people saying things like "he's saying what everyone's thinking but are too afraid to say." His open vitriol towards everyone made a fuck ton of assholes (racist, sexist, and otherwise) feel confident in no longer holding their assholery in.
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u/shabi_sensei 12h ago
Like white women complaining about DEI, they honestly think they get hired on merit and don’t realize without it they’d just be replaced by a dude
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u/InevitableMinimum723 11h ago
Dear white women,
White men gave black men the vote before they gave it to you. Let that sink in.
A white man who has met too many other white men
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u/MightyMorph 10h ago
Those women dont care. They want to be part of the church group, their afternoon wine club, weekend walk team. So they will hate with everyone else or face being outcast.
You have conservative women literally saying that women should not be able to vote and women cannot run governments or any jobs beyond a secretary. The need to be part of the right-wing culture is far greater than their need for rights. Because most of the time they think its just minorities that will lose their rights.
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u/Neuchacho 9h ago edited 9h ago
They need to be part of the right-wing culture is far greater than their need for rights.
That type of woman is so often absolutely terrified of trying to function on their own which completely devalues the idea of rights that work to give them more autonomy. They've been setup to be completely and utterly co-dependent on a man for their entire lives.
Doesn't give them a pass, of course, but it's interesting to see that kind of systemic, patriarchal conditioning in action.
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u/louiseifyouplease 9h ago
There are many, many white women who don't need anyone to tell us this. We are well aware that ANY kind of man is preferable to ANY woman when it comes to the presidency. We are well aware of the malignant and persistent misogyny at the heart of this country and its politics.
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u/wilderness_neologist 11h ago
Please stop perpetuating this. That’s not what DEI does. She did get hired on merit. DEI simply ensured that her merit would be considered alongside the dude’s to begin with. People aren’t out there hiring underqualified candidates because they help them meet some sort of minority quota
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u/TheGreatGenghisJon 10h ago
I don't misunderstood what he meant, or maybe I do, but I'll give another example.
I was talking to a friend of a coworker at a bar last year. His family is from South America, and he's relatively dark skinned.
He was bitching about DEI, so I asked him if he actually believed that he would have ever gotten a job at a bank if not for DEI policies.
Yes, he was hired on merit, but if the company was legally allowed to ignore his application because of his name and skin color, they most likely would have.
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u/PotablePortable 10h ago
To state a person would be replaced by a different demographic is not the issue. The issue is in implying that person was only hired because of their demographic and not on their merit, which is not what DEI is.
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u/TheGreatGenghisJon 10h ago
I agree it could have been worded better, but I didn't read it as a "I hope my black pilot is qualified" type of statement.
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u/wterrt 10h ago
Like white women complaining about DEI, they honestly think they get hired on merit
really sounds like they're implying the same thing as black pilot statement is.... that they aren't hired on their merits = are unqualified
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u/hippieguy24 11h ago
To be fair, a ton of people have been disenfranchised. They're just easily convinced that immigrants are the reason they don't have more opportunities.
People absolutely should be fed up. Should have been in 2016. But the immigrants, regardless of their status, aren't the problem.
Billionaires, corporations, citizens united, etc. The system has been rigged against US. And they were convinced that a spoiled rich overgrown child would fix things instead of just helping out his buddies.7
u/Outside-Advice8203 9h ago
Literally every primary ad for the Oklahoma Republican party governor's nomination race mentions trans people. Just constant fear mongering and "I'll cut taxes". Our state is one of the worst in the nation and sinking fast, run into the ground for 20 years by Republicans and their leadership know the "trans issue" will get these red state morons voting for them.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed712 12h ago
I tell ya, I do HATE the ones responsible for putting Trump in office. I'm not talking about the stupid voters who voted for the evil dumbass. They're just ignorant, brainless sheep.
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u/cardboardunderwear 11h ago
They are stupid.
Law 3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
It's the golden law of stupidity.
https://qz.com/967554/the-five-universal-laws-of-human-stupidity
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 10h ago
they're actually far more disenfranchised now than they were before
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u/jotsea2 12h ago
Almost as if he gained an unfair advantage by utilizing a foreign country to garner influence...
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u/Melodic-Classic391 12h ago
He also got hundreds of millions of dollars worth of free media coverage from a very thirsty mainstream media system
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u/Nighthawk69420 12h ago
This is severely an underrated reason why we got to this place today. Had the mainstream media not given him so much coverage, he may have slipped through the cracks in what was a very competitive Republican Primary.
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u/Melodic-Classic391 12h ago
Not only that, but they really worked to normalize him as just another candidate.
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u/RandomRedditReader 8h ago
Everyone did by playing nice. See how quickly being nice leads to being a pushover.
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u/S-gg-ha_of_Leng 11h ago
The mainstream media has been turning the elections into the Jerry Springer Show for the last decade at least.
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u/wh4tth3huh 11h ago
Not just coverage, but cover. Everytime he fucks up, every gaff, every time he fell asleep or said something incoherent, they'd just gloss over or cut, or come up with some thin excuse besides, "this demented old fuck is truly off his rocker and his brain expired sometime in the late 1990s."
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u/kermeeed 11h ago
A mainstream media that was already on deaths door that he completely revitalized.
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u/yaboyACbreezy 12h ago
The longer this farce goes on, the more I believe the narrative that Donald Trump aligned with a foreign government to undermine American democracy is totally false.
It's clearly multiple foreign governments.
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u/smoresporn0 9h ago
He gained an unfair advantage because the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the legacy media colluded to elevate candidate Trump in 2016 because they thought him to be the weakest opponent.
Remember how we all were curious why Trump was on TV so much while he was campaigning? They gave him the airwaves and it backfired spectacularly.
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u/whatever_leg 12h ago
This is why I fear the negative impact AI is going to inflict on the global economy and humanity at large. Everyone, including the tech companies, know it's a bad idea with tragic outcomes, yet the money is spent, the billionnaires made their nut, and AI can no longer be put back in the box.
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u/Fight_those_bastards 12h ago
I was channel surfing this morning and some dipshit on CNN was rambling about how “consumers want data centers because they use AI so much,” and my goddamn eyes rolled so far back that they inverted, fell out, and rolled down the stairs.
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u/whatever_leg 11h ago
The unveiling of NVIDIA's new Spark chip for AI computers yesterday was insane. So many limited resources are being sucked up by this bad idea. The tech CEOs and boards have some kind of psychological syndrome that has suppressed their ability to act in reasonable ways. It's so fucked up.
Governments, too. No one is acting for the common good anymore. Late-stage capitalism is awful and will destroy the standard of life we've known over the last 50 years.
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u/junkyardgerard 12h ago
She wasn't a savant, all this was the most common of knowledge. Hell it was practically written on the ballot. If I didn't know better, I'd say they voted for him because of all these things
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u/SpeaksSouthern 10h ago
Voting is an open book test and somehow Americans still failed it
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u/Dreadgoat 10h ago
they voted for him because of all these things
And even today people still don't quite understand just how large the "burn it all the fuck down" crowd is.
Of the people who still support Trump, plenty are stupid or in denial. But in my estimate even more are actively enjoying the collapse.
Steve Bannon is the blueprint. His background is a complete mismatch with what he represents; the failures he witnessed during his time in the Navy clearly set him on the "burn it all the fuck down" path.
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u/EvelynNyte 6h ago
Like many of them, Steve Bannon only cares about Steve Bannon. He does whatever he thinks will get him more power and money. Trying to ascribe some greater philosophy to him is a mistake.
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u/Dreadgoat 5h ago
No, THIS is a mistake. If he were just gunning for money and power he would have it in spades. He doesn't. It's not because he's stupid. It's because he wants to destroy.
You should know your enemy: Read his book. His goal is to create a world (yes, the entire world) of hyperpopulist hypernationalist states. He's basically Bizarro Lenin
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u/Best-Action8769 6h ago
This is exactly why Bernie would have won.
Voters wanted a reform candidate. That's why Trump got the nomination. That's why Bernie would have gotten the nomination if the DNC didn't torpedo his campaign when he was filling up stadiums in swing states.
People in both parties wanted a new direction, and both times dems offered 2 versions of"I will do nothing different than Joe Biden."
And voters saw Hillary as the establishment because...well...she fucking was.
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u/Sideview_play 12h ago
Yes I'm tired of people trying to glaze Clinton and or Harris for saying the most obvious takes and acting like they were super smart. They made many mistakes in their campaigns and are pretty neo liberal. Especially Clinton.
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u/partypartyparty_ 12h ago
Well some people do surprisingly seem very shocked about what's happening currently
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u/Sideview_play 12h ago
That would be all of the idiots
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u/GeneralHerp 10h ago
Not all of ‘em, don’t forget, there’s also people so stupid they don’t realize what they’re cheering on, or why they’re cheering it on.
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u/No_Statistician9289 11h ago
Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. She genuinely did know all of this before anyone else
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u/saltyhasp 12h ago
I've always thought that Hilary was pretty smart intellectually. She however is not that good with people. She lost because of that and because she is a woman. Bill on the other hand was pretty good with people, quite smart himself, but is quite a womanizer. So they like everyone else they both have issues.
Harris, I have a hard time to know. I know she said some things when she was running in 2016 (is that the correct year) that kind of showed she didn't even know how government worked. Night and day over Trump and Biden in 2024 especially because they both were too old and had real cognitive problems by that time, but that is a pretty low bar. I really am not sure about Harris.
Trump. Well we all know his issues, but people seem to still vote for him for one reason or the other. That would not be me, but whatever.
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u/UniqueLog8386 11h ago
Clinton is famously great with people one on one. People are fucking stupid and they wanted some old white guy to lie to them about dumb shit. They wanted to be angry, they wanted an easy scapegoat and they wanted permission to hate.
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u/Rasp_Lime_Lipbalm 10h ago
Yep. America as a whole doesn't want truth. They want bullshit served to them on a platter with a sprinkling of "making it bad for the brown/black people"
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u/Rot-Orkan 11h ago
People are fucking stupid and they wanted some old white guy to lie to them about dumb shit. They wanted to be angry, they wanted an easy scapegoat and they wanted permission to hate.
I think this is the most perfectly succinct explanation of how we ended up with Trump that I have ever read. Well done.
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u/ruggnuget 11h ago
The biggest issue with both of those women were that they were more of the same. The same neo liberal policies that have been eroding the middle class for 50 plus years. Its not a justification for Trump, nor does it make it right, but a stupid person that sees their standard of living decrease will tend to be susceptible to blaming the wrong things and will latch onto the person that gives those options. The failures of the establishment are the biggest reason for getting Trump.
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u/blusteryflatus 11h ago
The DNC will try it's best to push more of the same for 2028, just watch. It's going to be harris again, or newsome, or pete buttigeg or some other similar corporate zombie
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u/espinaustin 10h ago
The biggest issue with “those women” (without which they would have won imo) is that they were women.
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u/MicromagicFriesRIP 10h ago
It's interesting that people started taking a hard line on not having "more of the same" at the exact same time women started becoming viable candidates for office. It's almost as if this country is run by men or even the liberal ones will find any excuse possible. Unless, you know, the woman is young and a smokeshow like AOC.
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u/gopac56 10h ago
Compare AOCs policies vs Hillary or Kamala and you'll see why people vote for her. She's not another neoliberal.
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u/jrzalman 7h ago
Good lord. More like examine who's doing the voting. AOC runs in an extremely liberal distract, that's why she wins that race. Run her in Orange County and see how she does. She would be hanging out with Katie Porter.
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u/londondeville 11h ago
Oh please. Clinton threatened to close for-profit prisons and their stocks tanked that day. Was she Bernie? No. But she would have been great. Always trying to hand wave her away years later when she absolutely the solution to all this.
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u/PunchDrunkPrincess 12h ago
This was painfully obvious to everyone paying attention. He won because no normal person would ever imagine he would win and didn't go vote.
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u/Kaka-carrot-cake 12h ago
What about the second time?
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u/DunamesDarkWitch 12h ago
The second time, he won because prices increased during the previous administration. That’s really all that a ton of people care about. Even if it wasn’t directly caused by the previous administration, even if it happened globally and the US recovered faster than most other countries, the average American thinks in terms as simple as “price go up = bad. Price go up under democrat. I no vote democrat this time.”
For all the crazy, irresponsible, and terrible things the current administration has done, the primary reason why trump is polling so poorly today is because gas prices went way up and prices in general have continued to rise. That’s it.
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u/Resident_Sail_7642 12h ago
Same thing as the first time
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u/Vaginalacidbath 12h ago
Honestly it is absolutely wild to me how many people I knew who hated him who just didn’t bother to vote the second time. This girl I know who didn’t vote, a couple days ago actually had the audacity to whine and ask why everything has to be so much harder now. “Well, because so many people decided to skip out on voting last election…”
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u/HonorableMedic 12h ago
It’s wild to me people think he actually won every single swing state after his first term, but I guess Americans would rather assume their elections are secure than do research into the election.
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u/Vaginalacidbath 12h ago
I definitely do think there was some sketchy shit going on but I also think we could have overcome that if everyone who hated him actually came out to vote.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace 10h ago
I believe it. A lot of people were upset at how Harris became the nominee.
When Musk had his tantrum I was hoping he'd blow secrets but sadly not.
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u/greenroom628 11h ago
Not a proponent of abstaining from voting - we all should show up and vote, even if you don't like either option - it's our right and duty to do so.
That said, living in a state where the outcome is pretty much decided (ie, living in a deep blue or red state, even while being an independent) can be frustrating knowing that regardless of how you vote, the state in general is so deeply entrenched that your vote is essentially nulled. Not justifying abstaining, but I can understand the frustration.
The presidency should've been a majority decision from the start... not by electoral college.
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u/MardocAgain 9h ago
I get it, but I think this mentality is how those states remain perpetually decided. By voting, even in losing, you help close the gap. A R+7 district is automatically decided, but in today's climate would attract better candidates and funding from the DNC than an R+15 district.
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u/greenroom628 8h ago
Agreed - even voting in a deep red/blue state can show up in ways where districts can matter. By showing up, you can affect future spending by Reps/Dems in your district and state.
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u/BonnaconCharioteer 9h ago
Yeah, if you are in that kind of place the presidential election can be meaningless. However, sometimes you can still affect primaries. And down-ballot races are incredibly important and have smaller margins.
Completely agree on popular vote for president. Then we wouldn't be in this mess.
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u/Sideview_play 12h ago
Can we stop the narrative of people didn't vote ? His elections had huge turnouts and he won a 2nd time. Yes still a ton of people don't vote but that happens every election. Comparatively these elections had more turnout. The issue is Americans unfortunately chose this.
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u/FillMySoupDumpling 12h ago
Not voting is a choice, too. If the choice is chicken or fish and the person says “I don’t care, surprise me”, they have made a choice. They are fine with either.
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u/Sideview_play 12h ago
Exactly not voting was deciding and in this case it was between unseasoned overcooked chicken or a very rotten and poisoned fish and people thought "what's the difference".
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u/CA-68 9h ago
He won because no normal person would ever imagine he would win and didn't go vote.
Yeah I dunno about that. When you poll tens of millions of people, the answer isn't going to change much if you poll more people.
The sad and scary truth is that he won because his message resonated with a lot of people and it was better-delivered than the Democrat's message (which was uhhh who tf knows).
People want to feel strong. They want to feel in charge. They want to feel like a government and politicians who have failed them are going to be held to account. That's what he promised, and people were super into it.
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u/excommunicate__ 11h ago
Donald Trump is the best example of why Plato was critical of democracy.
What if the people are stupid?
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u/LOSS35 9h ago
Plato opposed democracy because he was a classist through and through (look up the "myth of metals") who thought only enlightened aristocrats like himself were worthy of rule.
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u/Cacafuego 9h ago
This video made me remember how confident I was at the time that we could never actually elect an unqualified dumbass like him. That was a good time, before I lost faith in my fellow Americans. Now I'm questioning whether democracy is viable in a world with AI, bots, and undisguised politicization of educational institutions.
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u/Applebeate 12h ago
I think South Park said it best.
One of them was a rash asshole who spoke his mind. He didn’t really offer solutions. We just thought he was funny. Nobody really thought he would be president. It was a joke. But we let the joke go on for too long. He kept gaining momentum and by the time we were all ready to say “Okay let’s get serious now, who should be president?” He was already being sworn into office.
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u/ExpansivePoint 10h ago
The joke has been going on for ten years, now the whole country is a joke.
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u/Terrible-Ad8897 11h ago
South Park famously had to make their Trump victory episode at the last minute because they were so sure there was no way he could win
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u/autovonbismarck 10h ago
South Park famously argued that it didn't matter which side you voted for because one was "a huge douche" and the other was a "shit sandwich".
They don't get to cry about a political system they helped prop up when they were literally telling people it didn't matter if George Bush won a 2nd term.
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u/GodOfTheGoons 10h ago
omg thank you! parker and stone went so enlightened centrist during the 2016 election and continued to lean into that until the trump admin affected them personally by screwing with their most recent season. rich guys who finally started to feel the heat.
don't get me started on the man-bear-pig episode
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u/Trotter823 9h ago
South Park is a very funny show but as a political cartoon it is a call to inaction. Its main thesis is that nothing matters because the world is stupid and does everything it can to point out why.
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u/Swords_and_Words 7h ago
I miss back in the day when Kyle would learn something every episode
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u/ThePlaystation0 9h ago
Most people didn't think he was funny back in 2016 either, people who supported him generally took him seriously and just liked that he wasn't part of the political establishment and didn't use big words. This enabled more uneducated R supporters to feel invested in politics enough to vote that year since they had someone they relate to more than usual who says things they like, even if there isn't an actual plan attached to any of it
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u/Opening_One7713 12h ago
Hillary won 3 million more votes than Trump. Just saying. We love bashing Democrats for not selecting winners but the entire system is gerrymandered to give rural/republican states a massive leg up. The current framework quite literally exists to make sure the minority opinion wins. This is categorically, quantifiably, mathematically the exact opposite of how democracy is intended to work.
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u/don-chocodile 7h ago
For all that people like to criticize Hillary Clinton as a bad candidate (or who criticize her for tipping the scales), she’s one of the very few who has literally never lost the popular vote in any race she’s ever run. NY senate in 2000? She won outright. Senate reelection? She won outright. 2008 presidential primary? She won more votes than Obama. 2016 presidential election? She won more votes than Trump.
It doesn’t match the narrative people like to tell about her so this is often disregarded, but it’s true.
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u/kitsunewarlock 7h ago
She also won way more votes than Bernie (who I voted for in the primary), but I still have progressive friends who believe that it was cheating that so many influential people supported her and most people voted based on the known popularity of her last name rather than research the candidates first (which is appalling, but Bernie knew that going into the race).
Gotta love the BernieBros still refusing to vote despite Bernie himself telling his supporters to always vote in every election.
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u/you_lost-the_game 8h ago
The us the winner takes it all system is undemocratic as fuck anyway. Every election a large portion of the voters go completely unheard, their votes literally didn't matter at all. That is all voters who voted for the losing candidate. Which, in the 2016 election, was even the majority.
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u/foolish83pleasure 12h ago
The cult fawned over him for the same reason everyone else hates him. He exposed Americans as just shitty people overall.
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u/flat5 12h ago
People are laughing like what she's saying is just insults to score points. But it's not, it's deadly serious, and she's rightly annoyed by the laughter.
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u/Inloth57 12h ago
She's still not wrong. Democrats are missing the point though. His supporters love him because he's as big of a piece of shit as they are. Welcome to America where the education sucks ass, everybody's in debt, nobody can afford healthcare, and a third of the country are bigoted dumbasses with nothing but hate to share.
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u/atreeismissing 11h ago
She knew exactly who he was, she told us repeatedly for a year and half who he was. She stood on a stage during a nationally televised debate and said he was a Russian puppet. She called him a creep and a sexual deviant. She called how worst followers deplorable.
But the media portrayed Trump as the one "speaking truth" and "telling us like it is". Add in decades of right-wing disinformation perpetuated by all the media (including that of the left), and massive amounts of sexism and low-information voters, and overqualified people like Hillary Clinton (who was far more progressive than most progressives will ever admit) gets defeated.
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u/omw2asmile 6h ago
The Hillary derangement syndrome of 2016 should be studied. Just an infinitely more electable candidate by temperament alone before you even get to political accolades. Some people just can't stand it when a woman tells it like it is.
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u/endlezzdrift 12h ago
We didnt listen, and now we are paying for it. Verbatim, she was correct.
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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party 12h ago
A lot of us listened
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u/K__Geedorah 11h ago
Trump's first campaign in 2016 ran on "Mexicans are poisoning the blood of America".
I know you and I listened. It was up front and center from day fucking 1. So fucking sick of people being like "we didn't know".
YES WE DID, YOU JUST DIDNT PAY ATTENTION OR DIDN'T CARE.
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u/Wooden_Struggle1684 10h ago
I remember that! What also did it for me was when he mocked that disabled reporter, Serge Kovaleski, at one of his rallies in 2015
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u/Dexterlicksit 10h ago
The most qualified person to ever run for President, yet she lost to a con artist who offered nothing but hate and criticism.
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u/TraditionalMood277 12h ago
But hey, what were we supposed to do? Vote for a very qualified woman? Can you imagine?
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u/lamewoodworker 12h ago
But a woman in office would start a war with all the hormones and all! /s
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u/DanimalMKE 12h ago
Yeah, her time of the month hurr durr
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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 10h ago
Someone actually wrote an Op Ed to the NYT in 2016 about that and just... She was 68 years old in 2016 for fucks sake
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u/MicromagicFriesRIP 10h ago
I remember being a little girl and my mother telling me there will be a woman president any day now. That was in 1984.
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u/colleenxyz 12h ago
It's crazy how articulate she is. Can we please go back to having presidents who can form complete sentences.
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u/babygotthefever 12h ago
She’d be a great speaker at a roast.
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u/LittleMissBraStrap 11h ago
And she's not even delivering well crafted zingers. She's just stating simple facts in a straightforward manner.
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u/Valex_Nihilist 12h ago
I used to talk so much shit about her. How brainwashed I was...
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u/Snoggums 11h ago
This isn't an uncommon thing women experience, being correct or worthy only in hindsight.
I'm glad you were able to get there regarding 2016, but also please look out for this pattern in the future and be proactive about not falling into it again. It makes little difference if women cannot be correct or worthy in the *present*.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 12h ago
I was one of the people whom people like you lectured, telling me that she was corrupt. Have the day you voted for.
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u/Hot-Hamster1691 12h ago
Proud of you for growing and admitting past wrongs. Perhaps in the future one might use this learning experience to make more informed decisions when it comes to voting for the people who represent your views and interests in the government. Don’t sit the next one out, be proactive in researching all the candidates in all the elections if you can. Vote in every local election. Get involved and show up because YOU HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THINGS AT AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL.
There are hundreds of millions of pissed off voters and a very few people in positions of extreme power and wealth. This always ends the same way, it is possible to do this peacefully but they are building bunkers so they will be dragons until the end. It is very dangerous to piss off people with little to nothing left to lose. FAFO we are not cattle we are not slaves we are sovereign conscious beings with free will
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u/Valex_Nihilist 11h ago
Yea I'll fully admit I was young and dumb and only listened to what family and friends told me and never did any actual research myself. Hell, I never even watched the news. What's most shocking is how many people still refuse to take off the blindfold.
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u/Keldrabitches 5h ago
And we’ll nominate AOC next time because we still haven’t learned how much this country hates women and minorities
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u/Late-Coconut-8356 12h ago
people are so sexist they are unable to see reason.
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u/weebawobba420 11h ago
"But-but her emails. But I don't like her. But there's just something about her I dont like. But I just don't like her policy. But the Clintons are bad people too."
Smfh it's because she's a woman. If she were a man..
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u/Thablackguy 12h ago
Hilary was right, Kamala was right. But noooo our populous is so dumb he conned his way to the presidency.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace 10h ago
Being right =! being electable. I hate that Obama is the only Democrat of the lat 20 years to understand this.
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u/GCNFoo 11h ago
r/politics shit on her the whole election then had surprise pikachu face when trump won ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/OptimalRisk7508 5h ago
Bullseye 🎯 Boy did we miss out on an intelligent , articulate, experienced leader 😢
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u/RiverHarris 4h ago
She wasn’t a savant. Anyone with functioning brain cells could see this coming a mile away. Don’t get me wrong, she’s an extremely intelligent person. But her predictions were the same that many of us had. People just didn’t wanna listen.
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u/GoRainBows 12h ago
But because it's Hillary "its liberal bullshit"
Must suck being a MAGAt having to subvert reality for daddy
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u/Bigjoan17 11h ago
Hahah what’s so funny is in western nations that get US news it’s was as obvious as water being wet that this was going to happen. I thought there is no way the USA can be this stupid and not see this grift 10 miles away. Idiocracy is clearly a documentary on the USA.
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u/FortuneGoodnight 11h ago
It just increasingly feels like we're being written into a bad episode of Black Mirror.
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u/ParticularPrudent783 11h ago
I’m not gonna stand by the revisionist history that nobody knew just how bad he was and this was a genius prophetic speech. Anyone with any sense knew all of this at the time, that’s why people were horrified when he was elected. It was SO clear that Clinton was a better choice to everyone who wasn’t dumb as a brick.
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u/SlipDizzy 10h ago
The problem is (was) she was in the class of corrupt politicians herself. Her lack of integrity prevented that important message from being taken seriously.
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u/abolish-it 6h ago
Oh yes, she was totally a savant, if by being a savant you mean holding the same views as millions of other Americans.
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u/AaronBurrIsInnocent 1h ago
God bless her but she wasn’t a savant. Just a very articulate person speaking the obvious. God bless her.
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u/matticans7pointO 12h ago
Important to note Hillary essentially put a spotlight and even propped up Trumps campaign because she thought he was the easiest opponent for her to beat. Yes she knew how bad he was/is but she also helped him get to where she is
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u/keekspeaks 12h ago
She was arguably the most qualified person for president that we’ve literally ever had. You can’t tell me it’s not because she’s a woman.
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u/Llama_of_the_bahamas 11h ago
As others have said, she isn't a savant. She was stating the fucking obvious that many people already knew.
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u/cauchy37 9h ago
Savant? Did you want to say prescient? Savant is someone usually with a developmental disability that exhibits exceptional brilliance in a narrow field. While prescience is anticipation of future events.
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u/josegjrd 8h ago
The white population of this country will Always cut off its nose to spite its face.
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u/shep2105 7h ago
The electoral college gave him the win, NOT the people. Its sad that after everyone saw what he did the first time, they voted for him AGAIN. Thats the truly pathetic part
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u/SashaBeans 7h ago
She would have served us well. But some folks were upset about her not wanting to bake cookies. This continues to terribly upset me.
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u/redvsbluewarthog 6h ago
Anybody with a brain could tell Trump should not be allowed anywhere near the Presidency.
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u/Honey-and-Venom 6h ago
She wasn't predicting the future. He was like this all along and it was always obvious.
They weren't surprised by it. They voted for it. They just wanted to be racist and yell at trans people (which ironically they only wanted to do because Republicans told them to be. They don't even know what trans people are. They're just the latest scapegoat in the Republican culture war because they lost the fight on gay marriage)
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u/Iorith 6h ago
She was your standard center-right democrat who was absolutely raked over the coals for being absolutely right about who her opponent was.
Anyone who couldn't plug their nose and vote for what would have essentially been more of the same we saw during Obama's presidency is a worthless person in my eyes, and holds blame for our current situation.
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u/Consistent_Pitch782 2h ago
She’s not a savant, she just used her eyes, ears and brain. It wasn’t difficult to understand how dangerous Trump was/is, even back in 2016. The issue was underestimating how incoherently stupid 80M Americans are. Once upon a time, I thought much more highly of my fellow Americans. Today I am bitterly aware of how truly fucked we are as a nation.
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u/Skizm 1h ago
Bruh, her and Kamala both being beat by a laughably pathetic limp dick, thin skin, draft dodging, rapist... WTF is wrong with us? Do we really hate women so much we'll vote for literally anyone else, including a guy that rapes and murders kids? Fuck man... I know it's what they want, but shit like this is why voting feels so futile.
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u/AffectionateTap6212 1h ago
I still believe that the election was stolen from her. It worked in 2016, and that’s why he is so adamant 2020 was stolen. What a different world we would be living in now if she had been certified.
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u/wifematerial138 1h ago
If she were elected president this country would still be respected throughout the world.
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u/millos15 1h ago
I hope someday the country grows up. the fact he was elected twice is so embarrassing. what an embarrassing timeline for this country
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